"Whatever
Happened to the Quiz Kids?"
Perils and Profits of Growing Up
Gifted
by
Ruth Duskin Feldman
Cornell University
Published by the Chicago Review Press, 1982
A
Remembrance of Things Past
In the 1940's, on one night each
week, half an hour was generally reserved for the "Quiz Kids" radio program,
when people tuned in to hear such children as Joel Kupperman, Gerard Darrow,
Richard. Williams, Ruthie Duskin, and James Watson (of Crick and Watson
fame) answer questions in childish voices but with professorial knowledge.
One night, when I was a teenager
back in 1943, I was listening to "The Quiz Kids" on the radio when the
announcer asked 6-year-old Joel Kupperman
to calculate how many seconds there are in a year. There was a stretching
silence for, perhaps, 30 or 40 seconds. Finally, Joel spoke up and, in
a childish drawl, said, "31,536,000." The announcer started to say, "That's
very good, Jo--", but Joel interrupted him, and they tripped over each
other for a second. Finally, Joel managed to get the floor, and said, "31,536,360.
I added in leap year."
That brought down the house.
Why
We Might Be Interested in the Quiz Kids
Like Leta Hollingsworth's "Children
above 180 IQ", and Louis Terman's "Termites", the Quiz Kids might hold
special interest for us as a group of several hundred extremely bright
children whose future histories are available for review.. Ruth Duskin
Feldman was one of the first, one of the longest running, and one of the
brightest Quiz Kids (with a childhood IQ above 200). Her book, "Whatever
Happened to the Quiz Kids?",
written in 1982, is a follow-up study of the later lives of a few of the
several hundred Quiz Kids who participated with her in the Quiz Kids show
between its beginnings, in 1940, and its termination, in 1952.
As I remember it, the children were drawn largely, if
not entirely from the Chicago area, although there were occasional guest
stars from other locales.
Ms. Feldman mentions that there were four Quiz Kids who tested above I.
Q. 200 as children. The greater Chicago area would have had, probably,
between 4,500,000 and 6,000,000 inhabitants in the 1940's. The show accepted
children from age 4 to age 16 from 1940 to 1952. That would have afforded
a total Chicago-based sampling cohort of, perhaps, 1,500,000 to 2,000,000
children (not including children from other cities who sometimes appeared
on the show) over the program's tenure. One I. Q. of 200+ per 500,000 people
would have agreed fairly well with the observed numbers. (All four of the
children with 200+ IQ's, Lon Lunde, Richard Williams, Joel Kupperman, and
Ruth Duskin, were from the greater Chicago area.)
The bottom
line is that four children with childhood ratio-IQ's of 200+ is about what
we would have expected to find in a population sample of this size, based
upon the Terman study, Miraca Gross' "Exceptionally Gifted Children" study,
and Vernon Sare's
1951 Master's thesis.
"Quiz Kids"
was a household word in the 40's, equivalent to "rocket scientist" today.
The Quiz Kids probably had greater visibility and better scholarship opportunities
than would have been afforded the original ""Children above 180 IQ", and
the "Termites". So let's see what did happen to them over the next 30 to
40 years.
Jack
Lucal, James Watson, Ruth Duskin, Margaret Merrick, Claude Brenner |
Gerard
Darrow, Claude Brenner, Richard Williams, Margaret Merrick, Joel Kupperman,
David Prochaska, Ruth Duskin, Harve Fischman, with Chico Marx |

Individual
Follow-Ups
Ms.
Feldman began by devoting a chapter each to 1982
follow-ups of many of her fellow Quiz Kids, delineating what had
happened to them over the intervening years. She then enters into a
general discussion of their accomplishments.
"It is therefore noteworthy that very
few of the most renowned Quiz Kids---with the striking exception of Joel,
who totally spurned his "notorious" past---have followed academic careers.
as
several of those less prominently featured on the show have done.
Some of the latter [who followed academic careers] say their Quiz Kid experience
strengthened their commitment to high scholastic standards.
Some
of the regulars, though, when they got to college, did not strive for high
grades,
preferring to concentrate on learning
for its own sake or to devote time to other activities;
and a few such as Lon Lunde and Harvey Dytch, reacted against competitive
intellectualism.
"What influenced our relative
success in a world beyond "Quiz Kids" and academia was not so much intellect
(a commodity we al have in sufficient supply) but the match between interest
and ability, the judgment we brought to decisions, and the determination
to carry them out... plus, of course, the proverbial bit of good luck.
"As Naomi Cooks Mann points out,
the easiest way to succeed is to choose what you are good at. For Lon Lunde
and Harvey Dytch, it took years of apparent floundering before
they settled on music and science, their early strengths.
"An important study on the ingredients
of success is under way at the University of Chicago. There
were no child prodigies among the one hundred world-renowned mathematicians,
concert pianists, Olympic swimmers and tennis players under
age 35 whose histories have been dissected by Professor Benjamin S. Bloom's
researchers. In fact, few of these topflight achievers
stood out as unusually gifted at the age of 5 or even 10. Some did not
show as much ability as siblings who started with similar parental encouragement
and early training. One thing that made the difference was motivation;
an all-consuming will to excel. Fired by recognition and fueled by expert
coaching, these young people concentrated on developing their talents,
often to the exclusion of social life and other activities. Similarly,
among the Terman group, the top achievers were those who, from childhood
on, evinced noticeable drive, ambition, initiative, independence and persistence.
Those who chose a vocation rather than drifting into one.
"Of all the Quiz Kid stars, Harve
Bennett showed that fiber. The product of achievement-oriented parents,
it was he, not they, who insisted he try out for the show. It was he whom
his perceptive colleagues singled out as "most unlikely to fail". And it
is he who has come closest to the zenith in his chosen field.
"Fundamental to success is the
ability to focus on and pursue a goal, as Harve did. Being well-rounded,
as Quiz Kids were supposed to be, some of us have found it difficult to
do that. Jack Lucal calls himself an
'intellectual wanderer.' Joan Bishop is 'honeycombed.' I never went to
graduate school because I could not commit myself to a particular field.
"Multi-potentiality is a mixed
blessing for many gifted youths.
"Darwin was no child
wonder. He was uninterested in his studies and made false starts on two
different careers before joining the voyage of the Beagle at twenty-one
as a junior naturalist. As his autobiography reveals, he considered his
abilities only moderate. He was not, he claimed, quick or clever; he had
difficulty following an abstract train of thought; and his memory was
so poor that he could not recall a date of a line of poetry for more than
a few days(!) Certainly not Quiz Kid material!
"What he did have was
a love of science, 'unbounding patience,' industriousness, and 'a fair
share invention as well as common sense.' Above all, an open mind and 'the
strongest desire to understand or explain' what he observed. Like other
great thinkers, he had what has been called a 'divine discontent; urging
him on...a combination of inspiration and self-discipline.
"In a Darwinian sense,
the fittest were those of us whose talents were particularly adapted to
success in the Quiz Kid environment; and those abilities, in turn, were
sharpened in the process. That we were not necessarily fittest to be opera
stars or Nobel prizewinners, Presidents or Popes, should disappoint only
the naive.
"Yet some of us have a nagging
feeling that we should have done more.
"Some of us, as often happens
with gifted children, became semi-compulsive perfectionists, driven by
the need to continue to be best or by the dread of failure.
"I, for one, found it difficult,
after my childhood laurels and my parents' lavish praise, to accept life's
inevitable disappointments and my own parental shortcomings. While my early
success left me (as it did some of my Quiz Kid colleagues) with the buoying
but rather irrational feeling that I can do anything, at the same time
I felt inadequate to meet that impossible expectation.
One reason is that the more deeply I went into something, the more distant
horizons I could glimpse. In college, I would come out of each examination
worried about how I had done--to my classmates' disbelief, since I rarely
fell below an A.
"Of course, as Dick Williams
points out, there has been a radical change in the way some Americans define
success." "This, as Dick says if one asks the question 'Did the Quiz Kids
fulfill their potential?', one must first define what is meant by potential.
"My story is probably typical
of the middle-class woman of my generation who married young and fell into
motherhood without having made a clear-cut career commitment. But, laboring
under the Quiz-Kids-induced delusion that I would continue to be an exception,
I assumed I would be able to pick where I had left off and arrive at a
distinguished career some day. Two decades later, I found that catching
up was not so easy."
Ms. Feldman continues:
"There are approximately
2,000,000 children in the United States with IQ's of 140 or more. Persons
in that range (which would include most Quiz Kids) constitute, according
to some estimates, one percent of the population: a potential genius for
every hundred people walking the streets! Even Terman began to back off
from such blanket characterizations when faced with the fact that not all
his subjects had enjoyed brilliant careers. (interestingly, on the other
side of the coin, Nobel prizewinners William Shockley and Luis Alvarez
reportedly did not qualify for the Terman sample.)
"Lou Cowan, originator
of the "Quiz Kids," understood as some of our public did not) that I. Q.
alone does not a genius make, and that a child who can read at three, identify
hundreds of birds, or memorize a long list of Biblical "begats" is not
, ipso facto, a prodigy. True prodigies are rare, and are not, generally
speaking, found on quiz shows. They are too busy pursuing the intensive
training they need in order to advance in their fields---usually self-contained
fields like music or math, which can be mastered rapidly without consummate
life experience.
"'Quiz Kids' did number
some musical prodigies among its roster, including Lonny Lunde and Joan
Bishop. For numerical virtuosity, we might nominate Joel Kupperman and
Richard Williams. But Joan and Lon chose not to pursue concert piano careers,
and neither Joel nor Dick cared to devote himself to higher mathematics.
"As Professor David
Feldman of Tufts University points out, interest and tenacious commitment
are keys to a prodigy's progress. Further, it is not uncommon for a musical
prodigy to peak early and drop from notice, nor for a math prodigy to end
up in a different field--few, as they move along, show the inclination
or capacity for deep mathematical analysis. And prodigious capability rarely
transfers from one field to another."
Additional discussion
of these findings may be found
here.
Many of
the Quiz Kids were ambivalent, if not downright negative about their stints
on the Quiz Kids program. Like the "Termites", by and large, they ended
up prosperous and successful as adults. James Watson was the Nobel Prize-winner
of the group. It's important to realize that when their childhood ratio
I. Q.'s are converted to deviation I. Q.'s, they were very bright but of
course, not as extraordinary as those childhood ratio I. Q.'s would have
suggested. The average I. Q. Of the ~600 children who participated in the
original show over its 12-year history was about 160, corresponding to
a deviation I. Q. of 150, and an expected frequency of occurrence (for
an I. Q. of 150 and above) of about 1 in 1,100. Factoring in whatever regression
to the mean may have occurred as they grew into adulthood, and whatever
"digression from the mean" may have occurred with other "late-blooming"
children in the Chicago area who might have overtaken them in adulthood,
possibly their accomplishments were about what might be expected in such
a group. Still, that doesn't explain why the brightest among them failed
to do any better than, or as well as some of the lesser lights.